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[Lynda Wetter]

The NCCI edit manual states in chapter 9

"If a procedure has a global period of 000 or 010 days, it is defined as a minor surgical procedure. The decision to perform a minor surgical procedure is included in the payment for the minor surgical procedure and should not be reported separately as an
E&M service. However, a significant and separately identifiable E&M service unrelated to the decision to perform the minor surgical procedure is separately reportable with modifier 25.
*If a procedure has a global period of 090 days, it is defined as a major surgical procedure. If an E&M is performed on the same date of service as a major surgical procedure for the purpose of deciding whether to perform this surgical procedure, the E&M service is separately reportable with modifier 57. Other E&M services on the same date of service as a major surgical procedure are included in the global payment for the procedure and are not separately reportable. NCCI does not contain edits based on this rule because Medicare Carriers (A/B MACs processing practitioner service claims) have separate edits."

THAT BEING SAID

*****
So does that mean if a Doc does a Consult and decides to put in a Port (36561)that consult would be inclusive to the Port that has a 10 day global?
***Also, what if you have a "major procedure" External Biliary drainage (47510) done the same day as a consult w/ a decision for surgery, do you append mod 25 or 57?
I thought consult/procedure done same day it gets a 25 regardless....
I think my answer is clearly here, just wanted others opinions!!

Any help would be nice.

 

[BABS37]

The 57 modifier is used for decision for surgery-same day surgery- with a 90 day global period. The 25 modifier would be used if the surgery is on the same day with a minor surgery, which is a zero to ten day global.

 

[mitchellde]

The NCCI edit manual states in chapter 9

"If a procedure has a global period of 000 or 010 days, it is defined as a minor surgical procedure. The decision to perform a minor surgical procedure is included in the payment for the minor surgical procedure and should not be reported separately as an
E&M service. However, a significant and separately identifiable E&M service unrelated to the decision to perform the minor surgical procedure is separately reportable with modifier 25.
*If a procedure has a global period of 090 days, it is defined as a major surgical procedure. If an E&M is performed on the same date of service as a major surgical procedure for the purpose of deciding whether to perform this surgical procedure, the E&M service is separately reportable with modifier 57. Other E&M services on the same date of service as a major surgical procedure are included in the global payment for the procedure and are not separately reportable. NCCI does not contain edits based on this rule because Medicare Carriers (A/B MACs processing practitioner service claims) have separate edits."

THAT BEING SAID

*****
So does that mean if a Doc does a Consult and decides to put in a Port (36561)that consult would be inclusive to the Port that has a 10 day global?
***Also, what if you have a "major procedure" External Biliary drainage (47510) done the same day as a consult w/ a decision for surgery, do you append mod 25 or 57?
I thought consult/procedure done same day it gets a 25 regardless....
I think my answer is clearly here, just wanted others opinions!!

Any help would be nice.

What this means is that every procedure has as a component of the procedure the assessment of the patient and the affected area necessary to perform the procedure. If that is all that was performed on the day of a minor procedure then the E&M is not significant and cannot be charged. (the provider cannot wear a blindfold and weld a scalpel) If on the other hand the assessment is beyond the scope of the procedure, such as doing a full body survey while examining a suspicious lesion, then you may use the 25 modifier.