egraham1827
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I do billing/coding for the physician and need some clarification on the surveillance guidelines. When a patient has a colonoscopy initiated for personal hx of polyps I code this as V12.72 primary with any findings secondary and use the appropriate CPT code (G0105, 45378, 45380, etc.) However, the hospital has been using V67.9 (unspecified follow-up examination) as the PRIMARY dx on their claims with V12.72 (personal hx) as secondary. Their claims are processed under the yearly deductible for Anthem (or other commercials) patients, and our claims are processed under 100% screening benefits causing problems and confusion for the patients.
Referencing the October & December issues of Coding Edge has only increased my confusion. The December article states that for a partient returning for personal hx is considered suveillance rather than screening. This makes sense to me; however, reading further along states that V67.9 is actually the appropriate primary dx for personal hx, with V12.72 as secondary? Why does it make sense from a coding perspective to use an unspecified exam code as primary dx for a patient who is undergoing a procedure for a SPECIFIED problem- personal hx? The article indicates that V67.9 is to be used when the patient is in the 10 year window from the first dx of polyps (under the Affordable Care Act), so therefore saying that V67.9 is a time period code, but the actual definition of the code says nothing of this...
The article goes on to say that "some payers may not accpet a nonspecific dx code as primary, for these payers use V12.72 primary and V67.9 secondary". Of course they don't accept an unspecified code as primary and that's not even why the procedure is being initiated. Also, the ICD-9 book clearly states under catergory V67 that "follow up codes may be used in conjunction with history codes to provide the full picture (ok, that makes sense), but the followup code is sequenced FIRST followed by the history code (this does not make sense to me when applied to colonscopy billing/coding...) So even for payers that don't accept nonspecific codes primary we still cannot put V12.72 primary with V67.9 secondary as clearly stated in the ICD-9 book. Therefore claims are being processed under diagnostic benefits and not screening which is causing patients to say they will no longer undergo this procedure knowing that they will be paying a large sum out of pocket even though they have a hx and no current problems.
I just really need someone to explain to me (with facts and proof, not opinion!) why V67.9 is used as primary even though it is a completely nonspecific code and in no way relates to colonoscopies initiated for personal hx in the definition itself. Under the Affordable Care Act a lot has changed for these procedures and I need to know that I'm coding and billing accurately under the guidelines to receive proper payment and prevent auditing. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and any help/suggestions/info is greatly apprectiated!!!
Referencing the October & December issues of Coding Edge has only increased my confusion. The December article states that for a partient returning for personal hx is considered suveillance rather than screening. This makes sense to me; however, reading further along states that V67.9 is actually the appropriate primary dx for personal hx, with V12.72 as secondary? Why does it make sense from a coding perspective to use an unspecified exam code as primary dx for a patient who is undergoing a procedure for a SPECIFIED problem- personal hx? The article indicates that V67.9 is to be used when the patient is in the 10 year window from the first dx of polyps (under the Affordable Care Act), so therefore saying that V67.9 is a time period code, but the actual definition of the code says nothing of this...
The article goes on to say that "some payers may not accpet a nonspecific dx code as primary, for these payers use V12.72 primary and V67.9 secondary". Of course they don't accept an unspecified code as primary and that's not even why the procedure is being initiated. Also, the ICD-9 book clearly states under catergory V67 that "follow up codes may be used in conjunction with history codes to provide the full picture (ok, that makes sense), but the followup code is sequenced FIRST followed by the history code (this does not make sense to me when applied to colonscopy billing/coding...) So even for payers that don't accept nonspecific codes primary we still cannot put V12.72 primary with V67.9 secondary as clearly stated in the ICD-9 book. Therefore claims are being processed under diagnostic benefits and not screening which is causing patients to say they will no longer undergo this procedure knowing that they will be paying a large sum out of pocket even though they have a hx and no current problems.
I just really need someone to explain to me (with facts and proof, not opinion!) why V67.9 is used as primary even though it is a completely nonspecific code and in no way relates to colonoscopies initiated for personal hx in the definition itself. Under the Affordable Care Act a lot has changed for these procedures and I need to know that I'm coding and billing accurately under the guidelines to receive proper payment and prevent auditing. Thank you so much for taking the time to read this and any help/suggestions/info is greatly apprectiated!!!