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New provider joining our practice in IA and IL who wants to perform some ocular plastics procedures in-office. Provider inquired about billing surgical assist for surgical nurse on these in-office procedures. I'm not familiar and am not locating much information out there. Anyone have any experience with this? I believe this is allowed in TX, but I'm unsure about IA and IL.
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The last time I researched this, I could not find a single commercial carrier to reimburse a surgical assist who was not a physician, PA, NP, or clinical nurse specialist. Physician with -80 modifier. PA, NP or CNS with -AS modifier. Even finding payors willing to pay for CNS assist was not easy, and (at least in my area) CNS who are certified RNFA are hard to come by, and expect a salary about matching an NP.
Each state determines scope of practice meaning what tasks a licensed healthcare professional may or may not perform. Whether or not your surgical nurse is permitted to legally perform the task is up to your state. The state's nursing board, or education dept or similar is the best place to check whether based on specific credentials what the "surgical nurse" may perform.
Payment is a completely separate issue and is determined by each carrier.
When we had a surgical suite in our office, if it was medically necessary, then a PA would assist. Procedures that the physician did not require a true "assistant at surgery", there would be a LPN, RN, surgical tech or other appropriately trained personnel in the room to prepare instruments, position patient, do counts, document times, etc. We billed and received payment only for cases where a PA assisted and the code allowed for an assist. Having a PA (or NP) there also allows the NPP to write discharge orders, prescriptions, etc. which even an RN cannot do.
 
I'm not sure about ocular plastics, but our office does bill for an RNFA typically for breast reduction/breast reconstruction surgeries. We usually have no issue receiving reimbursement for it either, but it will only be a percentage of your contracted rate (if you have one). For example, Horizon reimburses us 16% of our contracted rate. You must check with each carrier regarding their policy on assistants. Usually they have a list of codes they deem allowable for an assistant.
 
I'm not sure about ocular plastics, but our office does bill for an RNFA typically for breast reduction/breast reconstruction surgeries. We usually have no issue receiving reimbursement for it either, but it will only be a percentage of your contracted rate (if you have one). For example, Horizon reimburses us 16% of our contracted rate. You must check with each carrier regarding their policy on assistants. Usually they have a list of codes they deem allowable for an assistant.
I agree that with RNFA (a type of CNS) it is possible, and -AS is an appropriate modifier. The original post just states "surgical nurse" which could really mean many things, including RN, LPN, etc. When I inquired with my major carriers, they were hesitant at best. And in my geographic area, at least at that time, finding an RNFA was not easy, and they commanded a salary very close to an NP. We made the business decision to hire a newbie NP or PA for a similar rate of RNFA who could not only assist in office, but also the hospital and do a lot of additional tasks (appointments, prescriptions, hospital rounds).
For a staff member that is not PA, NP or CNS, there is no appropriate modifier to use.
 
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