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I am new to the coding field. After having heard this was going to be a hot field, I took the class and got my CPC-A license. Every job I see posted requires previous experience. I would love to get started on my new career. Any thoughts? Where should I look? Do I need more classes? Thanks!
 
I am in your exact same boat. I would love any advice. I was hoping that at some point the need for certified coders, especially ICD-10 trained coders, would outweigh the requirement for experience. So far everything I see requires 1-4 years on the job experience. I have tried to apply to a few anyway but they were unmoving on that point.
 
You're absolutely correct, finding a coding job is challenging fo new coders. I suggest you try to find a job in a related area of the revenue cycle and not expect to find a coding job. Look for a position in charge posting, medical records, front desk, payment posting, scheduling, or precertification. Once hired in one of those positions, do the best job you can, offer to learn and be helpful, and when a coding position comes available, you'll be in a position to make a move. Also, make sure you're looking for the right kind of job.....as a new professional coder (CPC-A), you are not going to be able to land a job in a hospital that is looking for a facility coder. I see a lot of new coders apply for inpatient coding jobs; that's a position that reuquires entirely different training and many, many years' experience, and it does nothing but illustrate the new coder's unfamiliarity with how coding works. Be willing to work part-time or on a per-diem basis. Coding is not an entry level job, so if you are hoping to eventually make this your career, you have to take the opportunities that are available, whether or not that is what you expected. It's unfortunate that the coding schools tell students that they'll be making 40K right out of the gate, but that could not be further from the truth. I hire CPC-As frequently, but on a per-diem basis....part time, no benefits...specifically to see how they work, what they know, and to begin to train them for full time coding jobs. If they don't work out (and some don't), then I can more easily let them go. This is a business, not a charity, and I'm responsible for several hundred million dollars per year in coded charges, so I have to make sure that the coders that work for this organization know what the heck they are doing. It's not personal, it's just the way the industry works.
 
Hi. I've been certified since Oct (CPC-A) and ICD-10 (May)and no luck yet. I do know IOD Inc hires new coders and these are work at home positions. I'm not sure where you guysare located but you can also keep an eye out for coding trainee positions posted on epicmanagement.com I've been applying for everything..experience or not hoping to get lucky. I do stick to more that are requiring 1 yr experience. You should also try making a LinkedIn profile. Never know. Just can't give up if this is truly what you want to do. Keep on pushin!
 
New Coders Not Finding Positions

I'm just newly AHIMA CCA certified and have not yet completed my internship. In the NY area, there seems to be no hospitals offering entry level or internships to new coders. My school's career department have been searching for almost three months now to place me. Today I finally joined AAPC to try on my own. Looking at the other entries here, I'm glad I did because it seems I'm not alone.

Thank you Pam Brooks for your very honest reply and insights. I'll take another stab at looking for other types of positions in hospital settings.

Has anyone tried AAPC's program (I've forgotten the name) that is suppose to help give you experience needed to land a job?

Paulette Watts
 
Newly Trained Coders

If you are newly certified and also ICD-10 trained coders (even without experience), we may have an opportunity for you to start working right away...please email The Coding Alliance at contact@codingalliance.com.

And if you live in LA, please call or email us asap!

Thanks!
 
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Thank you Pam for your information. I am new to the AAPC and just took my CPC on Saturday. I have been trying to find jobs in the hospitals in the area. I am newly located in Portsmouth NH. Still seems difficult to find your way into the hospital setting. I was in special education for 15 years and this was a new adventure for me. Trying hard not to get discouraged and just want to get my feet wet to pursue coding.
 
Wendy, please join us on September 17th for our next AAPC Local Chapter meeting in Dover, NH. I'll be there along with coding managers from other practices and hospitals, and you can start networking.
 
Hi Wendy,

I work for Core Physicians in exeter and i know currently we are hiring for 2 full time customer service reps and a full time medical biller for our anthem team. Our customer service department has the same manager as our coding department and i know frequently people start out in customer service and switch to a billing position, charge entry, or a coding position. it might be something to look into to atleast get your foot in the door and it is only about 20 minutes or so from portsmouth.
 
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Thanks Pam for your insight. I have been trying to get my foot in the door for a year now but I have not given up hope. What I am finding even in the entry level position which I have been applying, since I do not have 1-2 years experience no one wants to call me for an interview. I know I cannot get a coding position right out of starting gate but I figure I could atleast find something to get my foot in the door.
 
Advice

I currently still in enrolled in my billing/coding course and will be finished by the end of this month. I have a two part question. First should I attempt the CPC exam this year and take the ICD-10 proficiency exam, or wait until next year when the CPC exam is updated to ICD-10? Also I have several years in the healthcare industry, just not actual coding. My current position is an ABOM(assistant business office manager (medical biller)) at a nursing facility. I also have experience in A/R for a mobile x-ray company. I'm located in Kissimmee, FL and there are two hospitals here that hire CPC-A. Just wondering if my current experience would help me in landing a job in coding.

Thanks :)
 
When I was a new coder back in 2009, I was hired by a surgery practice. My advice is if there is a job that you are interested, go ahead and apply. It doesn't hurt to try. Another thing is that certified coders are in demand, especially with CMS and insurance companies cracking down on fraud. Good luck to all of you! ;)
 
Thanks!

Thank you for posting this thread.

Also, thank you, Pam, for your reply. It was very helpful!

I am a recent graduate and have completed both the Medical Transcription and the Medical Coding & Insurance courses. I took my CPC right after graduation and thankfully made it through. We did start with ICD-10 during the first few semesters and then switched back to ICD-9 because ICD-10 wasn't implemented when it was first scheduled to do so. I am saving the money needed to start my formal ICD-10 training.

I had enough coding instruction and hours to have my apprentice status removed, but am struggling with the same things as the rest of you. I lack the hands on experience beyond school. I am a single mother and this was actually my second time in college and it is a little daunting starting a new career at the age of 40!

I am currently looking for an entry level coding job and am willing to work on an as needed basis, part time, full time, and any shift but the pickings are slim without the experience. I have resumes all over and haven't heard back from many companies. If anyone has any thoughts or further advice, I would love to hear it. I just keep applying on a regular basis in the hopes that someone will come across my resume and give me that chance.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope you find what you are looking for. Keep your chin up! We will all get there!

Dawn Hutmacher, CPC
 
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Coding Jobs

I completely agree with everything Pam stated. Let me also, add that people without experience should stay away from hospital positions. Look for positions in physician offices. They are most likely to give you shot. But it mostly likely will not be a coding or billing position. It be something like front office (answering phone, scheduling appointments & maybe verifying insurance based on knowledge). Once there, you can ask the people that work in the positions you want to be to show you how to do things. Trust me most biller & some coders love to teach new people.

I've been in medical field for over 10 years. My first job after going to school for medical coding & billing was a front desk person. I did that for a year before I was able to move to a billing position/patient collections/referral coordinator and some coding. Did those duties for a year until I was hired as strictly billing with some coding. Now I'm working on a strictly work from home coding position.

Also, try to gain experience in many different specialties.

I hope that helps!

Renetta Houston-Hollingsworth, CPC
 
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I completely agree with everything Pam stated. Let me also, add that people without experience should stay away from hospital positions. Look for positions in physician offices. They are most likely to give you shot. But it mostly likely will not be a coding or billing position. It be something like front office (answering phone, scheduling appointments & maybe verifying insurance based on knowledge). Once there, you can ask the people that work in the positions you want to be to show you how to do things. Trust me most biller & some coders love to teach new people.

I've been in medical field for over 10 years. My first job after going to school for medical coding & billing was a front desk person. I did that for a year before I was able to move to a billing position/patient collections/referral coordinator and some coding. Did those duties for a year until I was hired as strictly billing with some coding. Now I'm working on a strictly work from home coding position.

Also, try to gain experience in many different specialties.

I hope that helps!

Renetta Houston-Hollingsworth

Your comments very helpful and it is very refreshing when someone like yourself would come here and respond.
 
Searching for a medical coding job

Hi sir,
My self Harisankargauda i am working in India as a medical coder from last 1.5 year in
HCC CODING (Risk adjustment)
and I also have cpc certification.
I want to re locate from India to us is there any opportunity for me.

Kindly provided me some information my mail id is - harisankargauda@Gmail.com

Thanks,
Harisankargauda,CPC
 
Hi sir,
My self Harisankargauda i am working in India as a medical coder from last 1.5 year in
HCC CODING (Risk adjustment)
and I also have cpc certification.
I want to re locate from India to us is there any opportunity for me.

Kindly provided me some information my mail id is - harisankargauda@Gmail.com

Thanks,
Harisankargauda,CPC

Honestly, Harisankargauda, there are probably more opportunities for coders in India than there are in the US. Not only that, but you have the whole visa thing to consider.

However, if you're hoping to work in the US, you would apply for jobs just as anyone else would. You would be responsible for arranging your work visa through your new employer, once hired. Good luck.
 
reassuring to read this.

You're absolutely correct, finding a coding job is challenging fo new coders. I suggest you try to find a job in a related area of the revenue cycle and not expect to find a coding job. Look for a position in charge posting, medical records, front desk, payment posting, scheduling, or precertification. Once hired in one of those positions, do the best job you can, offer to learn and be helpful, and when a coding position comes available, you'll be in a position to make a move. Also, make sure you're looking for the right kind of job.....as a new professional coder (CPC-A), you are not going to be able to land a job in a hospital that is looking for a facility coder. I see a lot of new coders apply for inpatient coding jobs; that's a position that reuquires entirely different training and many, many years' experience, and it does nothing but illustrate the new coder's unfamiliarity with how coding works. Be willing to work part-time or on a per-diem basis. Coding is not an entry level job, so if you are hoping to eventually make this your career, you have to take the opportunities that are available, whether or not that is what you expected. It's unfortunate that the coding schools tell students that they'll be making 40K right out of the gate, but that could not be further from the truth. I hire CPC-As frequently, but on a per-diem basis....part time, no benefits...specifically to see how they work, what they know, and to begin to train them for full time coding jobs. If they don't work out (and some don't), then I can more easily let them go. This is a business, not a charity, and I'm responsible for several hundred million dollars per year in coded charges, so I have to make sure that the coders that work for this organization know what the heck they are doing. It's not personal, it's just the way the industry works.

Hi Pam, It's reassuring that because I am a new coder, and not certified yet, that I'm on the right track. I received this my advice from my coding instructor (who is also a full time coder) in college, that if I have no medical office experience at all, this is the way to go. I'm looking to first become employed at a medical office, then I will focus on my CPC-A certification. I am hoping to become certified by October 2018 when everything changes again. If things work out, I could become certified by this October, but as my coding instructor told my classmates and I, "Learn how it all works, and don't get discouraged, and take it one step at a time, and you will be successful finding a coding job." Thank you, Eugene Cooper
 
CPC-A many years experience, but just achieved CPC. Still no work,,any help please

The issue that I am having is that I have worked in the medical field for over 25 years for many different practices in the billing department. I was self-taught coding and loved it. Got my RMC-Registered Medical Coder years ago but found out it was unrecognized in the industry. Just recently received my CPC-A. Even though I have the experience, I can not find a job and am very disheartened and frustrated. I was hoping that AAPC would have assisted me more after all of the money I have spent on exams and practice exams, etc. Anyone have any ideas,,, I am now trying to apply just for medical biller positions to get in any doors,,,:(
 
The issue that I am having is that I have worked in the medical field for over 25 years for many different practices in the billing department. I was self-taught coding and loved it. Got my RMC-Registered Medical Coder years ago but found out it was unrecognized in the industry. Just recently received my CPC-A. Even though I have the experience, I can not find a job and am very disheartened and frustrated. I was hoping that AAPC would have assisted me more after all of the money I have spent on exams and practice exams, etc. Anyone have any ideas,,, I am now trying to apply just for medical biller positions to get in any doors,,,:(

Are you not getting calls for interviews or are you interviewing but not getting a position?

Heather CPC
 
Are you not getting calls for interviews or are you interviewing but not getting a position?

Heather CPC

Only one phone call after probably over 100 applications. The position was too far for me to drive every day. I am confident enough to know that if I get an interview, I will land the position. I have never failed yet. But now I am stuck trying to get an interview.
 
Maybe it's your resume?

Only one phone call after probably over 100 applications. The position was too far for me to drive every day. I am confident enough to know that if I get an interview, I will land the position. I have never failed yet. But now I am stuck trying to get an interview.

I encourage you to take a good look at your resume and perhaps have a friend take a look at it. Maybe you are not showcasing your skills well. If you have not already done so, you may want to use a website to build your resume. I used a website at the encouragement of a job coach at school and it was much better than a word template or anything I could have created on my on. My husband and a coworker also used the site and got great results.

Heather CPC
 
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You should be able to get some kind of reconsideration from AAPC to get that Apprentice tag taken off. I'm sure you can procure several referrals from previous jobs stating that you have more than 2 years of coding/billing experience already. Go for it.

Peace
@_*
 
This is a business, not a charity, and I'm responsible for several hundred million dollars per year in coded charges, so I have to make sure that the coders that work for this organization know what the heck they are doing. It's not personal, it's just the way the industry works.[/QUOTE]

I take great exception to this comment. I have had difficulty finding coding work even with an advanced degree in Healthcare management and years of clinical experience. There is something seriously wrong with this picture. We have studied hard and tested in grueling boards, just like nurses, to prove our abilities. If nurses were treated the same way right out of school there would be starving patients rolling in their own vomit everywhere. I don't mean to be so dramatic about it, but I want hiring managers to understand how unfair it is that you are not willing to train new coders who have proven they have the ability. Not directing this at you personally, as you said that you do hire and train CPC-As. Huge kudos to you for that! Many are not even willing to consider an outpatient coder with less than 3 years experience though. Unrealistic!
 
I encourage you to take a good look at your resume and perhaps have a friend take a look at it. Maybe you are not showcasing your skills well. If you have not already done so, you may want to use a website to build your resume. I used a website at the encouragement of a job coach at school and it was much better than a word template or anything I could have created on my on. My husband and a coworker also used the site and got great results.

Heather CPC

Believe it or not I did have my resume completed by an on-line professional resume writing service for $150. I didn't think the one that I created was that bad. This person just used bigger words. Still no interviews
 
Hello. I have been realizing there are no real opportunities to get a Medical Coding job simply because there are so many people who are complaining about this and I have experienced the same. I received my CPC and Practicode here at AAPC and it is counterintuitive for the governing body of Coding Standards and Licensure to NOT have a job placement program or the like. I have been an advanced medic for over fifteen years and have four Emergency Medicine specialties. I also have a Masters and much more real world experience than many to include Military service. So, naturally, I thought it would be easier for me to get an Entry Level job as a Medical Coder. I am wrong in that thinking because I have been rejected for over fifty Entry-Level (i.e. 0 experience) CPC-A/CPC Medical Coding jobs since last year. I just received two more rejections.

I absolutely reject the idea from AAPC, the governing body, for people like us to just apply for basic data entry jobs first in the Healthcare Sector. That is absurd and ridiculous! Why would we have spent all that money for the proper education and training for the knowledge, skills, and abilities to code through the licensure body just to get a basic data entry job like record keeping. I wanted a change of career and thought Medical Coding would fit which I enjoyed learning and practicing through AAPC. Entry Level positions are just that, little to no experience anyway. I can't believe that all this effort is a waste since my AAPC CPC certification with all my other medical experience means nothing to employers. I purchased a new set of books (again through AAPC) and they are still in their plastic wrapping seven months later. It seems AAPC is only interested in making money and NOT making Coders and helping them network with companies. All of my professional medical training organizations I belong to do this.
 
You're absolutely correct, finding a coding job is challenging fo new coders. I suggest you try to find a job in a related area of the revenue cycle and not expect to find a coding job. Look for a position in charge posting, medical records, front desk, payment posting, scheduling, or precertification. Once hired in one of those positions, do the best job you can, offer to learn and be helpful, and when a coding position comes available, you'll be in a position to make a move. Also, make sure you're looking for the right kind of job.....as a new professional coder (CPC-A), you are not going to be able to land a job in a hospital that is looking for a facility coder. I see a lot of new coders apply for inpatient coding jobs; that's a position that reuquires entirely different training and many, many years' experience, and it does nothing but illustrate the new coder's unfamiliarity with how coding works. Be willing to work part-time or on a per-diem basis. Coding is not an entry level job, so if you are hoping to eventually make this your career, you have to take the opportunities that are available, whether or not that is what you expected. It's unfortunate that the coding schools tell students that they'll be making 40K right out of the gate, but that could not be further from the truth. I hire CPC-As frequently, but on a per-diem basis....part time, no benefits...specifically to see how they work, what they know, and to begin to train them for full time coding jobs. If they don't work out (and some don't), then I can more easily let them go. This is a business, not a charity, and I'm responsible for several hundred million dollars per year in coded charges, so I have to make sure that the coders that work for this organization know what the heck they are doing. It's not personal, it's just the way the industry works.
Hi Pam

Please do not take this as attacking you personally.
I have worked in the healthcare field for over 20 years- since the 1990s. First as a CNA then as a medical assistant. It’s NOT how this industry works-it’s strictly the coding side of healthcare. New medical assistants who are straight out of school (many of whom are all of 19 years old) are able to find jobs immediately without an “apprentice” label. These kids are jabbing patients with needles. But their (our) various credentialing organizations don’t slap an A on our credentials. And there is no “good ol boys club” or gal’s club that is blocking new medical assistants from getting jobs. It’s interesting that the AAPC has two headquarters in India and one in Illinois. I think if the medical coding professionals community continues to block new employees then some day soon all American medical coding will be outsourced. The medical coding community should be welcoming all and even begging for all hands on deck for the help.
 
Hi Pam

Please do not take this as attacking you personally.
I have worked in the healthcare field for over 20 years- since the 1990s. First as a CNA then as a medical assistant. It’s NOT how this industry works-it’s strictly the coding side of healthcare. New medical assistants who are straight out of school (many of whom are all of 19 years old) are able to find jobs immediately without an “apprentice” label. These kids are jabbing patients with needles. But their (our) various credentialing organizations don’t slap an A on our credentials. And there is no “good ol boys club” or gal’s club that is blocking new medical assistants from getting jobs. It’s interesting that the AAPC has two headquarters in India and one in Illinois. I think if the medical coding professionals community continues to block new employees then some day soon all American medical coding will be outsourced. The medical coding community should be welcoming all and even begging for all hands on deck for the help.
After 35 years in the industry, I've heard more stories and opinions than you can imagine. No offense taken. However, you're mistaken if you think that AAPC or coders in general are blocking opportunities for new coders. Why would AAPC (a for profit company) want to discourage the success of credentialed coders, who pay dues and need to obtain CEUs? The off-shoring of coders, billers, auditors and other compliance individuals is not new news. It's a business practice that's not limited to healthcare either. Im not sure why you felt the need to respond, but to compare medical assistant to coding is like comparing apples to oranges. I stand by my comments, however.
 
You're absolutely correct, finding a coding job is challenging fo new coders. I suggest you try to find a job in a related area of the revenue cycle and not expect to find a coding job. Look for a position in charge posting, medical records, front desk, payment posting, scheduling, or precertification. Once hired in one of those positions, do the best job you can, offer to learn and be helpful, and when a coding position comes available, you'll be in a position to make a move. Also, make sure you're looking for the right kind of job.....as a new professional coder (CPC-A), you are not going to be able to land a job in a hospital that is looking for a facility coder. I see a lot of new coders apply for inpatient coding jobs; that's a position that reuquires entirely different training and many, many years' experience, and it does nothing but illustrate the new coder's unfamiliarity with how coding works. Be willing to work part-time or on a per-diem basis. Coding is not an entry level job, so if you are hoping to eventually make this your career, you have to take the opportunities that are available, whether or not that is what you expected. It's unfortunate that the coding schools tell students that they'll be making 40K right out of the gate, but that could not be further from the truth. I hire CPC-As frequently, but on a per-diem basis....part time, no benefits...specifically to see how they work, what they know, and to begin to train them for full time coding jobs. If they don't work out (and some don't), then I can more easily let them go. This is a business, not a charity, and I'm responsible for several hundred million dollars per year in coded charges, so I have to make sure that the coders that work for this organization know what the heck they are doing. It's not personal, it's just the way the industry works.
Wow, I really needed to see this today. I'm so glad I found this! Thank you! I will be looking for everything you said to get my foot in the door! Have a blessed day! :)
 
Hello. I have been realizing there are no real opportunities to get a Medical Coding job simply because there are so many people who are complaining about this and I have experienced the same. I received my CPC and Practicode here at AAPC and it is counterintuitive for the governing body of Coding Standards and Licensure to NOT have a job placement program or the like. I have been an advanced medic for over fifteen years and have four Emergency Medicine specialties. I also have a Masters and much more real world experience than many to include Military service. So, naturally, I thought it would be easier for me to get an Entry Level job as a Medical Coder. I am wrong in that thinking because I have been rejected for over fifty Entry-Level (i.e. 0 experience) CPC-A/CPC Medical Coding jobs since last year. I just received two more rejections.

I absolutely reject the idea from AAPC, the governing body, for people like us to just apply for basic data entry jobs first in the Healthcare Sector. That is absurd and ridiculous! Why would we have spent all that money for the proper education and training for the knowledge, skills, and abilities to code through the licensure body just to get a basic data entry job like record keeping. I wanted a change of career and thought Medical Coding would fit which I enjoyed learning and practicing through AAPC. Entry Level positions are just that, little to no experience anyway. I can't believe that all this effort is a waste since my AAPC CPC certification with all my other medical experience means nothing to employers. I purchased a new set of books (again through AAPC) and they are still in their plastic wrapping seven months later. It seems AAPC is only interested in making money and NOT making Coders and helping them network with companies. All of my professional medical training organizations I belong to do this.
Amazing post. I applaud you for saying this out loud because seeing how much experience you have in the health industry in general it is a great shame that not even you have found a job! (Unless you have since the post.) Anyways, I've been applying too and it seems if I could just find an entry level coding position somewhere for a year then the doors to so many other coding positions would be open to me. I'll keep applying, but I actually found a remote seasonal job for customer service. I really hope to put my CPC-A credential to use though. But for now bills have to be paid...
 
I am new to the coding field. After having heard this was going to be a hot field, I took the class and got my CPC-A license. Every job I see posted requires previous experience. I would love to get started on my new career. Any thoughts? Where should I look? Do I need more classes? Thanks!
I am new as well and had the same struggle. I found an entry level billing role. Its been unique experience because I have been allowed to code. Try billing.
 
Amazing post. I applaud you for saying this out loud because seeing how much experience you have in the health industry in general it is a great shame that not even you have found a job! (Unless you have since the post.) Anyways, I've been applying too and it seems if I could just find an entry level coding position somewhere for a year then the doors to so many other coding positions would be open to me. I'll keep applying, but I actually found a remote seasonal job for customer service. I really hope to put my CPC-A credential to use though. But for now bills have to be paid...
I am new as well and had the same struggle. I found an entry level billing role. Its been unique experience because I have been allowed to code. Try billing. I apologize. I didn't realize you were as frustrated as I was. I have a BBA and working in commercial finance and billing for over 10 years and I was STILL struggling. Sorry to say this but it's the industry.
 
Amazing post. I applaud you for saying this out loud because seeing how much experience you have in the health industry in general it is a great shame that not even you have found a job! (Unless you have since the post.) Anyways, I've been applying too and it seems if I could just find an entry level coding position somewhere for a year then the doors to so many other coding positions would be open to me. I'll keep applying, but I actually found a remote seasonal job for customer service. I really hope to put my CPC-A credential to use though. But for now bills have to be paid...
Thank you for your reply and congrats on the new job! Definitely keep looking for the CPC job because you never know. As for me, no, still frustrated that I am rejected for every coding position at the entry and CPC-A level despite finishing Practicode and having the over a decade of clinical medical healthcare experience. My 2023 coding books remain in their plastic wrap because, why should I bother opening them if I can't use them? So, for me this was a waste of time and there is no AAPC job placement program in effect to help us students out. GL!
 
Hi Pam

Please do not take this as attacking you personally.
I have worked in the healthcare field for over 20 years- since the 1990s. First as a CNA then as a medical assistant. It’s NOT how this industry works-it’s strictly the coding side of healthcare. New medical assistants who are straight out of school (many of whom are all of 19 years old) are able to find jobs immediately without an “apprentice” label. These kids are jabbing patients with needles. But their (our) various credentialing organizations don’t slap an A on our credentials. And there is no “good ol boys club” or gal’s club that is blocking new medical assistants from getting jobs. It’s interesting that the AAPC has two headquarters in India and one in Illinois. I think if the medical coding professionals community continues to block new employees then some day soon all American medical coding will be outsourced. The medical coding community should be welcoming all and even begging for all hands on deck for the help.
Well stated! Out sourced, yes, but replaced by AI, even more likely there after.
 
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