KSeymour
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Good morning all!
I have a few questions from my providers at Greenville ENT and I am having trouble getting clarification. If anyone with an ENT or E/M background is able to read through this whole post, I know it is a lot, and I really appreciate your time.
The first situation is how to handle OTCs. We had pretty much decided that there aren't really any documentation requirements for OTCs other than mentioning that you want the patient to use them, since the patient does not need to go to the doctor to go pick up an OTC. We are considering OTC management to be a level 3. We have been instructed that we can bill a level 4 when the medication is altered in some way. Technically the boxes of nasal spray suggest that you should not use them for longer than 2 weeks. If our providers are suggesting use for much longer, can we bill a level 4 for these?
Secondly, the leveling table states "review and interpretation..." so in this scenario we were encouraged to have the doctors use that exact verbiage. Are you handling this a different way? Our providers do not feel they should have to stick to the verbiage and want to be able to just mention, for example, "CT results normal".
Another issue with verbiage and the leveling table is that our providers do not believe in the "decision for surgery" verbiage. They believe they should get credit for going over the options even if the patient declines. I feel this opens up the process to fraud and the verbiage regarding the decision was intentional. My providers want to bill level 4s even though the patient has not technically decided on a procedure. Is your office sticking to the verbiage in this case or is it enough to discuss the option?
Additionally I am seeing a fair amount of level 2s and I think this may just be the nature of ENT considering that the problems can be very minor, or require extended observation periods rather than jumping right into less conservative measures. How do you feel about level 2s? Should they be less common or more common? My providers had been educated by someone a few years ago that told them they should rarely have level 2s and that does not seem to be the case. Since they were already told otherwise there has been some pushback.
These are just a few problems we are having that we have not been able to resolve yet. Any insight into the situation is greatly appreciated!
Kiley Seymour - Greenville ENT
I have a few questions from my providers at Greenville ENT and I am having trouble getting clarification. If anyone with an ENT or E/M background is able to read through this whole post, I know it is a lot, and I really appreciate your time.
The first situation is how to handle OTCs. We had pretty much decided that there aren't really any documentation requirements for OTCs other than mentioning that you want the patient to use them, since the patient does not need to go to the doctor to go pick up an OTC. We are considering OTC management to be a level 3. We have been instructed that we can bill a level 4 when the medication is altered in some way. Technically the boxes of nasal spray suggest that you should not use them for longer than 2 weeks. If our providers are suggesting use for much longer, can we bill a level 4 for these?
Secondly, the leveling table states "review and interpretation..." so in this scenario we were encouraged to have the doctors use that exact verbiage. Are you handling this a different way? Our providers do not feel they should have to stick to the verbiage and want to be able to just mention, for example, "CT results normal".
Another issue with verbiage and the leveling table is that our providers do not believe in the "decision for surgery" verbiage. They believe they should get credit for going over the options even if the patient declines. I feel this opens up the process to fraud and the verbiage regarding the decision was intentional. My providers want to bill level 4s even though the patient has not technically decided on a procedure. Is your office sticking to the verbiage in this case or is it enough to discuss the option?
Additionally I am seeing a fair amount of level 2s and I think this may just be the nature of ENT considering that the problems can be very minor, or require extended observation periods rather than jumping right into less conservative measures. How do you feel about level 2s? Should they be less common or more common? My providers had been educated by someone a few years ago that told them they should rarely have level 2s and that does not seem to be the case. Since they were already told otherwise there has been some pushback.
These are just a few problems we are having that we have not been able to resolve yet. Any insight into the situation is greatly appreciated!
Kiley Seymour - Greenville ENT