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Help me clarify how you distinguish significant, separately identifiable service. I have a new patient who comes in with pain and stiffness in a joint. The Dr reviews symptoms, does the PFSH, an exam, xrays and then discusses options with the patient. The decision to give the injection was made by the patient. Can we bill the E&M and 20610? Previous chats indicated that even if the patient is new, an E&M is built into the 20610 or any minor procedure for that matter.
 
lynnsherwood said:
Help me clarify how you distinguish significant, separately identifiable service. I have a new patient who comes in with pain and stiffness in a joint. The Dr reviews symptoms, does the PFSH, an exam, xrays and then discusses options with the patient. The decision to give the injection was made by the patient. Can we bill the E&M and 20610? Previous chats indicated that even if the patient is new, an E&M is built into the 20610 or any minor procedure for that matter.
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Ummm you just stated that the patient is new... did a ros, pfsh, exam, xrays and then discussed the options. FOR SURE YOU CAN CODE AN E/M!!!!!!! If the patient came in for just the injection and it was scheduled that way, then no you couldn't bill an e/m unless it was significant and separtely indentifiable.
 
eadun2000 said:
Ummm you just stated that the patient is new... did a ros, pfsh, exam, xrays and then discussed the options. FOR SURE YOU CAN CODE AN E/M!!!!!!! If the patient came in for just the injection and it was scheduled that way, then no you couldn't bill an e/m unless it was significant and separtely indentifiable.
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Yes, I completely agree.
E=evaluation=collecting the history, assessing patient through an exam.
M=management=decision to perform a procedure.

If the decision to perform a procedure was done at a previous visit then no e/m is billed.
 
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